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Athens Abell. The Hornets Nest.
(Hornets buzzing in the background)
Welcome to todays edition of The Central Valley Hornet.
A special edition from the Hornet’s Nest.
I am Athens Abell.
Thank You for joining me today.
Wensday January 18, 2012.
I am going to be talking to the family of former Stanislaus County deputy Craig Prescott. Craig Prescott was a son, a father, a brother, a husband, a deputy and a friend.
(Music from The Prezcotts is playing in the background)
www.modbee.com/2011/11/11/1944111/gossip-girls-sibling-singers-setto.html
In today’s edition we’re going to be dealing with some disturbing subjects that could be questionable for younger listeners,even though I have the settings for this episode set for mature, I ask that if you’re under the age of sixteen you ask for your parents permission to listen or log in to today’s show.
SBC or Suicide By Cop, is a suicide method in which a person engages in actual or apparent danger to others in an attempt to get themself killed by Law Enforcement.
It’s where a suicidal person engages in a concious life threatening way to a degree that it forces the police officer to respond with deadly force. Craig Prescott. Former deputy for Stanislaus County,and Modesto, California Resident. His death was not a case of Suicide By Cop.
www.suicidebycop.com
I’m going to be talking with the surviving family in a few moments about the events leading up to the death of former deputy Prescott, before they come on the line I have to remind the listeners of another case that made headlines all over major networks,newspapers and the Internet.
It pertains to Kelly Thomas, this last July a homeless man was killed by police officers, but it was not a suicide by cop incident rather it was …..well let me read a brief synopsis from L.A. Now the online news post for the L.A. Times, it’s dated September 2011.
“Officers approached Kelly Thomas on July 5TH, at the Bus Depot in downtown Fullerton while responding to a report of someone trying to break into cars. According to witness accounts,( a homeless man) ran when officers attempted to search his bag. What exactly happened next is unclear. But witnesses said they saw multiple officers hitting Kelly and shooting him with a Taser while he was on the ground.
On a side note you can see this video on You Tube.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ljYNgLnpxM
Officials from the district attorney’s office have said they were awaiting toxicology and other test results from the coroner before making a decision on the case. That report was handed over to the district attorney’s office Tuesday, but the findings were not made public.
Thomas, a 37-year-old homeless man with schizophrenia, was a regular presence in downtown Fullerton. He died five days after the confrontation, after being removed from life support.
Earlier this month, an attorney representing the Thomas family released hospital records that showed Thomas had tested negative for drugs and alcohol and that the immediate cause of death was “brain death” due to “head trauma” from the incident.
The hospital records released showed that he suffered brain injuries, a shattered nose, a smashed cheekbone, broken ribs and severe internal bleeding. Thomas also had been shocked with a stun gun “multiple” times, including in the left chest near the heart, the records showed.
Thomas’ father, Ron, has been pushing the district attorney’s office to file charges against the officers, and the case has sparked a furious reaction, including weekly protests outside the police station and a recall campaign against three City Council members.
latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/da-announces-kelly-thomas-murder-charges.html
To bring you a little more up to speed on the Kelly Thomas case The L.A. Times from November 2011 about seven weeks ago, say’s a Fullerton police officer and former L.A.P.D Officer Jay Cincinelli is one of six officers involved in the violent struggle that led to the death of a homeless man Kelly Thomas in Fullerton California. Cincinelli faces charges of involuntary man slaughter and excessive use of force in the case and has been placed on unpaid leave by the Fullerton department. A second officer Manuel Ramos was charged with second degree murder and involuntary manslaughter. Four other officers involved in the case were not charged.
www.fullertonsfuture.org/tag/kelly-thomas-beating/
abcnews.go.com/US/kelly-thomas-police-officers-charged-beating-death-homeless/story?id=14575028#.TyJIbFbQIfk
Now to bring it back a little closer to home. This is Stanislaus County, the heart of the Central Valley, smack dab in the middle of California. Great music as you’ve been listening to in the background, Almond trees,honey bees and downtown parades.
www.modbee.com/2011/08/05/1805088/sister-act-shoots-video.html
However just like the bigger cities of America we have our own version of the ever present under current of corruption,cover ups and collusion and we have our own story like that of Kelly Thomas right here. We’ll be right back…
(Music playing in back ground)
ATHENS ABELL: And I’m back. Today we’re discussing the death of former Stanislaus County deputy Craig Prescott and I’ll be discussing the event leading up to his death with some of his surviving family members…and I believe that we have one of them on the line right now, please introduce yourself…
www.modbee.com/2010/11/12/1425759/wrongful-death-trial-date-set.html
www.modbee.com/2010/05/19/1174368/end-ineffective-leadership.html
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Hi, Athens this is Marlyn Prescott, Craig’s Mother.
ATHENS ABELL: Hi, Marlyn..I’m glad you were able to join us today,if you’ve been listening to the beginning of this show I’ve been playing some of Craig’s daughters music in the back ground and they have gone onto…had a beautiful CD..I understand they are cultivating a budding musical career that we’ll talk about later on in the show and I really apologize for asking you to do this and reliving the the trauma but I really appreciate you coming on to tell us just like Kelly Thomas’s Dad who’s not giving up to seek justice for the wrongful death of his son and I see that you’re not giving up either.
latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/kelly-thomas-father.html
MARILYN PRESCOTT: That’s Right! I have to tell you that Rachel’s here she’s on the other line, Mickey’s here and Kevin’s here..
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Hi Athens…
ATHENS ABELL: Hi,Rachel..and you’re the widow of Craig Prescott ?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON Yes..
ATHENS ABELL: And Mickey, are you there ?
MICKEY PRESCOTT: Hello ! How are you..?
ATHENS ABELL: Hi,Mickey and Mickey and Kevin you’re the brothers of Craig Prescott?
MICKEY AND KEVIN PRESCOTT: ..Yes..
ATHENS ABELL: Is that correct?…Okay.
ATHENS ABELL: The first subject that I would like to try to discuss to put this into a succinct timeline for the listeners is Kind of where this all started..and that was the resignation of Craig, he was a deputy at the time with Stanislaus County, can you tell me a little about how long he worked for the deputies…for the sheriff’s department and then why he was no longer employed by them?
www.modbee.com/2010/04/07/1119199/lawsuit-filed-in-stanislaus-county.html
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Athens I can talk about that,this is Rachel, he worked for the department for over nine years, he about the past several years before his death he had, huge amounts of stresses working for that department, he was not on the right side politically with them and was.. ,would stand up for truth and injustices that were taking place in those four walls and was considered a whistle blower….and
I just feel like they didn’t really care for him to much and I saw the stresses that was upon him and it was a horrible thing that he was going through…but he did work there until the early part of 2006..when he came home shaking and terrified one night after being forced to resign…it was all very shocking and we kinda knew that , he felt like something was going to happen to him for a while.
Those in authority over him were always looking over his shoulder and trying to catch him up in something or ….he just knew they had it in for him. And I didn’t even have a concept as his wife who heard everything he would tell me I didn’t get just how bad it was inside there..it was just hard to believe that it was that bad….but it is.
ATHENS ABELL: Do you remember about when this happened? Do you have a date, like was it three years ago? Do you remember when this resignation took place?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: I think it was in February of ’06…I have all those dates, I’m pretty sure thats when it was…
ATHENS ABELL: And how did they force him to resign?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Well, he came home and told me that when he showed up for work he had the department there waiting for him and detectives and they surrounded him and he actually had something that he wrote about it and he logged all of this on his computer, but he arrived in to work.
They basically had an inmate informant that tried to say that he (Deputy Prescott) was going to be bringing in drugs into the facility and they surrounded him. They didn’t allow him to ask for an attorney or for anything. They had a letter written up for him all ready for him to sign…they, he allowed them to search himself his locker and his car…and…it’s a lot to talk about since in the end it all ends up getting dismissed so what they’re saying is that he and you know they thought he’d bring something in and they threatened him and said they would kick down the door to his house…(with his babies and everything in there ) if he didn’t sign this letter..they really terrified him that night.. he came home a different husband that evening..
ATHENS ABELL: Now you said They! Who are they that you’re talking about?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Marlyn, do you want to uh…..?
MARILYN PRESCOTT: I think…Well,I don’t know if you want me to give the names, but these were the deputies these were
ATHENS ABELL: No,no,no…
MARILYN PRESCOTT: The two detectives….
ATHENS ABELL: Yeah
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Hayman, from I.A. (Internal Affaires) I guess…and then one of the Captains was there, along with a Sergeant who was present during these this interrrogation…
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Yeah!
ATHENS ABELL: So these were other deputies..?
MARILYN PRESCOT: Right ! Yeah !
ATHENS ABELL: And the reasons that Rae..said that they wanted him that they wanted Craig to resign was because he was, they said that he was..
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Yeah..(The sheriff’s detectives THOUGHT !) He was going to be bringing in a substance…and he said that they interrogated him for a couple of hours and he was asked to sign a waiver that gave them permission to search him and his vehicle,his locker and that he did not want them going into his home and it was a short time before that , that there was something that hit the news about an 11-year-old boy being shot during an home invasion by the police…and UMM..Craig was really shook up from that and that all he could see was his girls cowarding in a corner and being scared and potentially shot…and he was very afraid..
articles.latimes.com/2001/jan/16/news/mn-12868
ATHENS ABELL: And at the time you had some small children to?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Oh, Yes ! six girls..
ATHENS ABELL: Did you have six children?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Uh Huh ! Yeah !
ATHENS ABELL: Did they threaten him with bodily harm or did they threaten his family with bodily harm if he did not sign the resignation papers….?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSONP: The Captain..when they were doing this interrogating and telling him to sign the paper had his hand, had his hand on his holster or on his gun and Craig felt that intimidation and that threat.I don’t know if that was physically said but that they were definitely very intimidating.
ATHENS ABELL: You said that he came home a different husband that night?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Uh Huh..
ATHENS ABELL: How so ?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON:That began night after night after night of staying up making phone calls,calling attorneys,logging all the events that have happened to him throughout his whole employment with the sheriff’s department..starting to write and write and talk non-stop and trying to seek help, he had attorney after attorney calling him back saying they were not willing to touch this case..and they did not want to come up against Stanislaus County and that he didn’t have a case..and he had, he kept very good records of everything that happened to him through the sheriff’s department and all the like unfair treatment and disciplines that he received.
And he kept really good records of all of that.so…and he was very intelligent, he had written all of this out, he was seeking help and was not getting any and…he would be up I would wake up in the middle of the night he could not sleep he would be up at Two and Three A.M. on his computer writing and logging everything.
So I would say he at that point he became very obsessed with the injustice and not only what had happened to him but what was going on, on a daily basis within the sheriffs department.
He knew a lot of things..that really deeply bothered him and that really affected him..so it started..
ATHENS ABELL: And unlimately…Sorry, go ahead
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Yeah..he did begin to exhibit some bizarre behaviors, he was truly trying to forgive the sheriff’s department for what they did to him..but he was just, he was reliving a lot and …did begin to act bizarre but not.. it just was something that kinda.. began to progress the next few years leading up until when he severely became mentally ill..but there were things that we saw that were concerns but nothing that impacted you know that took over his life but he was definitely having a struggle.
ATHENS ABELL: Now from the time he resigned until his death,was he working in between that or..
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Yes !
ATHENS ABELL: I mean because he was no longer employed by the sheriff’s department is that right?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Exactly, Yeah he knew that he could not get another job with any law enforcement …he had been looking into it and due to the fact he quote and unquote resigned..you know he realized that…that was discouraging to him, he was very talented as a handyman and could do all kinds of work and we had a landscape business prior and he was doing clean outs and with some work on some of my real estate properties as well as he worked for..selling Cars for a few months as a car salesman..and gotten his sales license..he started online schooling..he kinda was in a midpoint of his life of probably not knowing what it was he wanted to do..but I think that was kind of a crisis..he was doing everything like he’d worked up to at that point was gone and what am I doing now..so he was kinda he was attempting quite a few different things….(sometimes over all?)
(Inaudible……)
ATHENS ABELL: I think a lot of people forget that in the midst of all of this is, the people who have heard the story a few times is that how long Craig was a deputy before this happened…
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Yeah, right..
ATHENS ABELL: It wasn’t like he was in the sheriff’s department for three or four months I mean he was there for quite a few years ..
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Exactly!
ATHENS ABELL: How long was he in the sheriff’s department ?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Over nine years..
ATHENS ABELL: That’s quite a while.
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Yeah..and you know he was I mean he was doing really,really well he had gotten even an award for helping out a situation and causing peace and safety to it and they all respected him I mean he did his job amazingly well..
ATHENS ABELL: Tell me a little bit about Craig the man, the father,the husband before this happened you said he changed that night he came home he was a different person..
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON:Yes.
ATHENS ABELL: What was he before that night?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Well,he loved me with all that he had and his daughters were his babies and that never changed, it’s just the bizarre behaviors came and went away..but as far as before that he was very,very full of life, he was the warmest person you could meet, he did not have any enemies that I knew of because he would make them into friends instantly,even if somebody for whatever reason they would have anything against him I mean, even me getting married young my own father you know was calling him son very shortly after marrying me..and just embracing him my whole family and friends and just the whole community..You know he had a reputation for helping others, very giving and generous, just really about others..he taught me a lot in that area..but we did…to the girls he was a big teddy bear of a dad and you know they would just play with him and adored him and their eyes would light up and they would scream daddy when he walked through the door..he was their everything they were daddy’s girls, they really were ..
ATHENS ABELL: How long were you and Craig married?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Fifteen years..we had just celebrated our fifteenth anniversary November of ’08.. and we had just went to Monterey and Pacifica and that area for a few days..and I was just saying how our marriage was really just getting going because our girls were starting to get older and we were starting to enjoy more time together and so yeah we had six children fifteen years later..and we were you know..
ATHENS ABELL: Well on your way to a life long marriage?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Yes..absolutely !
ATHENS ABELL: Well I’m going to take a short break and when we come back we’ll talk a little bit about what happened after that fateful night..
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Okay..
ATHENS ABELL: Rachel,you’re the widow of Craig Prescott and the mother of six daughters ?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Yes, I am.
ATHENS ABELL: And,that music that we were just hearing is some of their music..
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Yes..
ATHENS ABELL: At least it is your oldest daughters composition ?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Yeah..
ATHENS ABELL: Were going to be talking a little bit more about their music towards the end of this show..
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Okay
ATHENS ABELL: Thank You for joining us today and we are talking with the Prescott family..Marylyn Prescott mother of former Stanislaus County deputy Craig Prescott, Rachel Prescott-Johnson,Craig’s widow. Mickey and Kevin Prescott, brothers to Craig..I’d like to talk with Mickey and Kevin for just a minute..because Rachel you were saying a few minutes ago that after that night of the forced resignation he was not the same person..
ATHENS ABELL: Mickey and Kevin did you notice a difference in Craig’s attitude after these events?
MICKEY PRESCOTT: Well,this is Mickey, Hey Athens,
ATHENS ABELL: Hi.Mickey..
MICKEY PRESCOTT: I think his attitude change, he became obsessed with trying to get to the truth and being redeemed..because they put him through so much, he kinda became obsessed with it..so..it was an injustice done to him and he was looking for justice so he was pretty much focused on that but also focused on his girls and their music..
[Mickey Prescott is a former Sheriff's deputy and Modesto police officer]
ATHENS ABELL: Did the sheriff’s deputies take any kind of action against him or the sheriff specifically after his forced resignation, do you know if they did any kind of, you know you better stay away affect with him..?
KEVIN PRESCOTT: I think my mom could probably answer that, this is Kevin, a little bit better than we can because it..there was a big mess with some type of subpoena and they had a warrant out for his arrest and this is something he didn’t even know about and when he found out about it he actually found out from a former inmate I believe or know a former deputy that worked there that this was going on that’s when they…my mom had to get legal counsel and the whole thing was thrown out because it was a bogus claim and they had no, no jurisdiction to even do that because those were false allegations…
ATHENS ABELL: Okay, so let me get this straight, this timeline here, he was accused of bringing drugs into the jail, falsely accused..
KEVIN PRESCOTT: Uh,huh..
ATHENS ABELL: And then he was forced to resign and then after he was forced to resign they put a warrant out for his arrest..
KEVIN PRESCOTT: Yeah they..
ATHENS ABELL: Is that correct?
KEVIN PRESCOTT: They had a warrant out for, you know if he would have got like a ticket or been pulled over for anything he would have wound up going to jail or seek legal advice and the whole thing but he didn’t even know that was lingering there…that had been lingering on like two to three years..that had been going on..so yeah..that was..
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Actually Athens I have a copy of the warrant and I could read it to you..this Rachel has already explained to you what happened when they brought him in and interrogated him in that room with all of the deputies accusing him of the bringing in drugs and they found only tobacco in his car and for some reason they booked that and then they threatened him. Well this is the warrant that he discovered one year later..this warrant was issued one month..I’m sorry April 18TH 2006 so that was two months after he was forced to resign..they issued this warrant and this is what it reads..
“On April 18TH 2006..M. Beltran Stanislaus County Sheriff’s Department complains and alleges upon information and belief that said defendant did commit the following crime in the county of Stanislaus state of California..On or about February 19TH 2006, defendant did commit a felony Sell or give a controlled substance to a person incarcerated in a jail or state prison facility violation of section 4573 dash dot 9 of the California Penal Code and that the defendant did willfully,knowingly,unlawfully and feloniously attempt to furnish an inmate with a controlled substance.”
This is after they found nothing and forced him to resign, because if that were the case Why didn’t they arrest him ? He was never arrested,he wasn’t even booked or anything..
law.onecle.com/california/penal/298.1.html
law.onecle.com/california/penal/4573.9.html
ATHENS ABELL: Are there any other items or I you know I don’t know the legal, legal lingo for it as far as terrorizing somebody okay after the fact..is there any other case or warrants or is there anything that came out against Craig after the forced resignation..?
MARLYN PRESCOTT: Not anything, you mean as far as if he had done anything previously..?
ATHENS ABELL: No,no..the charge that was dated April ’06
MARILYN PRESCOTT: April ’06 two months after they forced him to resign that’s when it was dated it wasn’t discovered by Craig that he had this warrant until the following year of 2007 and that’s when things really started happening to him, when he started feeling very,very I would say just depressed, obbseessed with this whole idea that he needed to get some help and then when he found out about the warrant of course it could have ended him up in jail, but thank God we found out in enough time to get legal counsel.. and to represent him and when he was finally the legal counsel went to court for this whole warrant business it was thrown out, it was dismissed.
ATHENS ABELL: How did this affect the enitre family as a whole? I know that it affected Rachel of course and their daughters and it affected you Marlyn as his mother, and it affected his brothers and the peripheral people as well like sisters in laws and nieces and nephews and cousins and that whole family unit had that trickle out affect of what these events caused..
MARILYN PRESCOTT: I’m Sorry go ahead..
ATHENS ABELL: But as the whole family has that caused you to become fragmented or bond closer together ?
KEVIN PRESCOTT: Well I’d like to comment on that this is Kevin again. Initially it did fragment our family very much so we didn’t know how to deal with this we had never been faced with a tragedy like this before in our lives..you know other than losing my father you know from cancer which was tragic enough now we have this heinous crime that’s been committed against one of our family members and we don’t know what to do, I can’t tell you how many countless nights of lost sleep that I suffer from just during this process, I know my sister in law had, she had to be medicated to be able to go to sleep and she could not sleep for days on end, my mom was in you know terrible disarray behind the whole fact that she couldn’t sleep, my brother Mickey would call me crying you know because he was missing his brother, we were very close..we did barbeques together we did you know work days together if somebody bought a new house and needed some work done on it we’d go tear out sheet rock, tear out walls and restructure a whole house together because that’s something that was a craft that my father taught us..and we would have fun doing this because this was our time to socialize with one another and to tell jokes and just tease one another I mean that’s what we do you know as a family and it just tore us apart it really did it was it’s hard to explain but I think were finally just now coming out of our shell where you know were doing more family things together again but you know it took a long time to get to that point you know because it’s were all dealing with this in our own way and you know a lot of the things we were doing were similar but you know it affected us all and in a way that you know it can’t be described unless you’ve gone through it..
ATHENS ABELL: How do you deal with it?
KEVIN PRESCOTT: Me personally?
ATHENS ABELL: Yes you ?
KEVIN PRESCOTT: Well, I hated the sheriff for a while and I know that I am not supposed to hate him you know so then I’ll ask God to forgive me for hating but I strongly dislike him You know I’d love to see him out of this county back to his state of Montana where he can exercise his racism and the things that he does you know um already you know he’s a proven racists he’s in authority over people and you the thing is that not..were placing a race card or anything like that I just think this man has a strong hate I mean he didn’t even have the decency to just let us know what went on he you know he just played this thing off and then he gets with his group of buddies and they come up with their little plan how their going to tell this to the public with their lies and deceit you know and it just it never ceases to amaze me because I work in the field I’m out there I see how you know police officers operate are operating how the police officers are operating wrong or operate as well and you know the thing is that it always comes back on those people that are doing the wrong thing those guys that do the right thing over and over again it never comes back on them because they have the best interest of the citizens at heart in the first place this guy only thinks about number one and, so that’s how it affected me I just have a hate,hate relationship with this guy and you know I never hated anyone in my life and I don’t hate this man but I hate what he represents I hate his whole demeanor I hate the way he treats people I hate the way he thinks he’s you know higher than anybody else in the world you know he has this stench when I look at him I develop a stench in my body that rejects everything he’s about so I hope I answered your question..
www.stanislaus-da.org/News/pdf2009/press-release-prescott-10-05-2009.pdf
From Robert Stanford’s Vault:
www.scribd.com/doc/45931451/Stanislaus-Sheriff-Department-VS-Craig-Prescott-Arrest-Dismissal-Case-Paperwork
thehive.modbee.com/node/22620
ATHENS ABELL: And you’re speaking about the current sheriff of Stanislaus county ?
KEVIN PRESCOTT: Absolutely, he’s the guy that who’s in charge he’s the guy that reflects the injustices that are done within that facility because he try’s he tolerates it, he puts up with it he projects it he develops it he encourages it and not only that I think thats part of his culture you know he’s developed a culture of hatred of racism of just a total disregard of humanity..
media.modbee.com/smedia/2009/10/07/17/Prescott_Letter.source.prod_affiliate.11.pdf
adam4sheriff.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=7
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQsn3khb0YQ
thehive.modbee.com/node/19442
ATHENS ABELL: Mickey how do you deal with this situation ?
MICKEY PRESCOTT: Well like I said when I was on your show I deal with it I just depend on God for strength and I just depend on my family it’s not easy this trickle down affect but it’s a lot of prayer and a lot of a lot of talking over things you know getting it out in the open and talking over it, my mom and I talk a lot about it my brother and I talk my sister and I talk you know my sister in law it’s just a process we have to keep talking about it so it doesn’t consume you inside because if you keep it inside it does nothing but a lot of hatred and anger so I’m glad my brother talks about it to so it’s just it’s a very it’s going to be a very long process you know um we’ll never get over it and but were just letting God take care of it so were also being proactive to with it so that’s how I deal with it.
ATHENS ABELL: Well I appreciate you talking with me about this today and talking about the events leading up to Craigs death and in the beginning of the show I was talking about the case of Kelly Thomas in Fullerton California that was on the news this last July, August,September and then of course on through to the end of the year…for those listeners who are unaware of what were talking about it is the death of Craig Prescott former Stanislaus County deputy and up until this point on the show we have talked about the forced resignation from his duties as deputy and also how this affected the family of Craig Prescott, but we haven’t talked about the actual event and I’m going to take about a 30 second break and when we come back I would like to talk about the event like Kelly Thomas there’s a video on You Tube concerning the death of Craig Prescott..and I would like to talk about that when we come back..
ATHENS ABELL: Were talking today with the Prescott family about former deputy for Stanislaus County Craig Prescott and his death while he was in a jail cell, I’m here with Marlyn Prescott, Rachel Prescott Johnson and Mickey Prescott and Kevin Prescott. And I would like to ask the four of you just like you can watch one scene and be an eye witness the four of you can come up with four different perspectives of that same scene because you’re standing at four different corners and seeing it from a different view however with the incident with Craig there is a video concerning his death and were the moments proceeding his death and I would like to ask your perspective of what you see in the video, the reports that have come out since his death and how those reports are in conflict with each other or not and we can start with whoever feels comfortable
MARILYN PRESCOTT: I’ll start ..We as a family were together just as we are now and we had a visitor who called first and said he had something for us, that was the arresting officer, Offiicer Anthony Trock, from the Modesto Police Department who came with some papers to give to Rachel from Craig’s arrest and also to come in and express his condolences as well as to inform us that he saw the video and so of course this is only a week after Craigs death the officer had just come back from vacation and found out shockingly that Craig had died in shock so he said to us what he had done and how he got in there and how everything went fine until he left him there fine this is there at the county jail and when he came back he said he had heard about his death and he said he went over to the jail to find out what happened and he said when he walked in he walked over to get to the custodial area he saw two deputies watching a video and he looked at them and he asked is that a video of Prescott? and they said Yes..and he watched it and he told us what he saw and after he told us what he saw we were just kind of like thinking Okay that kind of matches what deputy district attorney Nate Baker had told us that it was that it was kind of the same type scenario, not specifically saying the same things but it kind of fits the picture that he had given us got, I’m sorry he being the deputy district attorney Nate Baker had told Rachel and I the morning of Craigs death that this was what he was told by the deputies so the video that Trock had explained to us what he saw matched what Nate Baker had said.
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(MAIN WITNESS TO THE PRESCOTT CELL EXTRACTION VIDEO SUDDENLY DIES)
www.legacy.com/obituaries/modestobee/obituary.aspx?n=nate-baker&pid=144517176
(RETALLIATION AGAINST OFFICER TROCK, ANOTHER WITNESS TO THE PRESCOTT CELL EXTRACTION VIDEO)
www.modbee.com/2011/03/29/1620585/modesto-police-officer-arrested.html
(ANOTHER WITNESS TO THE PRECOTT CELL EXTRACTION DIES!www.abajournal.com/news/article/2nd_prosecutor_dies_unexpectedly_in_less_than_2_months_in_central_calif._da/ ) Shawn Barlow dies- “To lose two prosecutors in the prime of their lives for totally unforeseen reasons was unimaginable weeks ago—yet it happened.”
I guess the Sheriff-Coroner determined the cause of death.
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ATHENS ABELL: And you received the reports afterwards about the cause of Craigs death is that correct?
MARILYN PRESCOTT: You mean after the county’s autopsy was performed..?
www.linkedin.com/pub/eugene-carpenter/14/165/624
thehive.modbee.com/node/14148
www.glenoakspathology.com/index.shtml
From Robert Stanford’s Vault:
www.scribd.com/doc/46146724/Glenoaks-Autopsy-Report-on-Death-of-Craig-Prescott-Showing-Suffication-Instead-of-the-DA-s-Cover-up-Heart-Attack
www.modbee.com/2009/11/20/942719/second-autopsy-contradicts-countys.html
ATHENS ABELL: Yes!
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Yes we couldn’t get the hospital records before that which would have had a cause of premature death Rachel made several attempts and couldn’t get them..for some reason they were there was a stall she was put on hold and know one came to the phone or we’ll have to get back to you, nobody called so this went on for a month or so I think after she was supposed to have requested the medical records and ironically we did not receive those medical records until after an autopsy report was given, the autopsy report from the county done the pathologist was Dr. Eugene Carpenter He had written that Craig had died from hypertensive heart disease, that he had a heart attack and that that’s what killed him,
ATHENS ABELL: And You have the death certificate ?
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Yes !
ATHENS ABELL: You have the death certificate, did the coroner sign the death certificate?
MARILYN PRESCOTT: No!there’s not one signature on this death certificate..
ATHENS ABELL: Does that cause legal problems as far as you know is he not legally dead?
MARILYN PRESCOTT: I would think that..
ATHENS ABELL: Without his signature…
KEVIN PRESCOTT: I was..
MARILYN PRESCOTT: It would certainly be something to authenticate a document..as to it’s validity and I would certainly think that unsigned it would not, it may as well not exist..
ATHENS ABELL: Does that cause any kind of ramifications for his widow and his children ?
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Meaning any kind of assistance or any kind of filing for his social security or something like that..is that what you’re meaning by ramifications?
ATHENS ABELL: Yeah !
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Oh, that actually that didn’t I mean she was able to get verification by the mortuary too..
ATHENS ABELL: I see..
MARILYN PRESCOTT: The social security office I believe, the mortuary had him as deceased, the hospital has him as deceased, but obviously the coroners office has not, does not regard him as deceased because there is an unsigned death certificate with no cause of death on it,
ATHENS ABELL: And the current Coroner at the time was Christianson..
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Adam Chrisitianson..our sheriff
ATHENS ABELL: He was the coroner?
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Yes..
ATHENS ABELL: Okay..I didn’t realize the sheriff could be the coroner to..
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Yep! Sheriff-Coroner. I think it is a conflict of interest personally I don’t think it should be that way but obviously it’s been that way for a long time
www.scsdonline.com/coroner/
ATHENS ABELL: Wow! this is a lot of information to take in and I thank you for helping me put this into a succinct timeline for the listeners..you know they say that they whoever they are the wise people out there say whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger which I think is an awful saying because I think whatever doesn’t kill you can destroy you the rest of your life..
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Yes,right..
ATHENS ABELL: And this is horrible what has happened to your family it is unforgivable what has happened and trying to deal with the outcome of it has been I can imagine extremely hard for your family and there are dozens of people in your family and each one it sounds like they’re dealing with it in a different way..and as one of your sons was saying you’re starting to come back together but at first it did fragment your family and how long has it been since Craigs death?
MARILYN PRESCOTT: It’ll be three years in April..
ATHENS ABELL: It’s interesting because Kelly Thomas is a homeless man downtown in Fullerton was killed in July and it made the news by like one day later ….Why is it we haven’t heard anything about Craig?
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Well, Kelly Thomas’s assailants were video taped by average citizens who posted it on You Tube and they were forced to deal with it quickly, what they did to Craig was behind closed doors and no one knew what happened to him except possibly a couple of inmates and those eight deputies who were involved that’s the only people who knew …Athens may I go back to a previous question that you asked..about the video tape ?
ATHENS ABELL: Yes..
MARILYN PRESCOTT: What’s amazing about what Tony Trock explained to us as well as what Nathan Baker had explained to us was not the video tape that you see on you tube it is not the safety cell video tape that they’ve shown This was supposed to have happened in Craigs own cell it was a cell extraction video tape that Tony Trock said he saw because he explained that Craig had on a jump suit and they were trying to take off his jump suit They meaning those eight deputies as they were rolling back and forth on the floor with him You don’t see that in the video tape that’s on you tube You don’t see that in the safety cell video tape..You see something totally different, you see people hovered over him almost as if trying to cover his body up where he can’t be seen but you cannot see he was dragged into this cell in his underwear he’s not wearing a jump suit..Tony Trock was specific about the jump suit and how they were trying to take it off of him and it looks like he said they were having difficulty taking it off of him so these things and this is called after a week of Craigs death so this wasn’t anything that I would think that he would have tried to make up after he saw the video tape and disagreed this is what he originally told us..so you know that’s where a conflict is coming in because why is it necessary to have a safety cell video tape if there was a cell extraction video which showed that he died right there he stopped breathing because Tony Trock said that after about after 8 to 10 minutes they start trying to do CPR on him in his cell..not in a safety cell.
ATHENS ABELL: Well this is a question I have had since the moment I have met you a few months ago and started hearing about his story and that is Do you think that Craigs death was premeditated ? Do you think that he was killed on purpose? Or do you think this was an accident?
MARILYN PRESCOTT: I think that he was assaulted and tortured and Tasered on purpose I think it was because of Craigs so called Whistle blowing because Craig had letters he had written to the Grand Jury,NAACP,he wrote to the sheriff and the under sheriff the former sheriff not Adam Christianson, Weidman and under sheriff Breshear who was the under sheriff under Weidman in talking about some of the things that he witnessed with about other deputies and inconsistencies with some of the things that were told.
He wanted to set it straight and he wrote these letters saying these things were happening in the sheriffs department the letters to the NAACP, was about the discrimination he witnessed with against African American employees he wrote that and he filed a complaint against the sheriffs department back in 2002 with the federal government and I think that was the onset of working in a hostile environment for him because they as Rachel stated earlier was they’d just nit pick him for everything because it was almost like this was an indirect way they were going to were going to get you for you told these things on us and now were going to get you back.
So and Adam Christianson at the time that Craig filed this he was working as the I think as the Union rep..for Craig and a couple of other things that happened that they did not like and Craig defended one of the other deputies who was in trouble and went and testified for the Skelly hearings for that deputy and that put him at odds with the sheriff’s office and with those in charge the officials there so there were a number of things like this that he had to endure based I believe on a retaliatory conspiracy if you will..to get him for what he did and this is people that have worked for the sheriffs office who have are no longer employed this is one of the things which they had echoed that the sheriff is very vindictive when it comes back to people he thinks did not defend him or support him or someone who spoke out against him these are the things that those employees former employees have said about our sheriff current sheriff.
So would Craig being there as I was told considered a high profile? when you have a former deputy or someone who’s an official anyone like that in jail it’s considered high profile everyone would know about it even the sergeant who claimed he didn’t know Craig was there the who was in charge of the eight that went in there and did what they did to him he claimed he didn’t know Craig was there that would be unlikely because he would have been notified that Craig would have been in Jail because it’s part of their whole procedures to Let those in charge know that there’s a high profile person here and I would think since he was considered high profile I would think it would’ve been totally one of the first things on your agenda as you were getting ready to extract him from a cell and knowing that it’s mandatory to take a cell extraction video.
I would think that would have been a priority of you getting your Team together and making sure that there was a filming going on as all these things were happening because you do have someone who is high profile..
ATHENS ABELL: As a precautionary..
MARLYN PRESCOTT: Exactly,and of course the sergeant claims He forgot to tape the video..of the cell extraction.
MICKEY PRESCOTT: This is Mickey,I’ll remind you that the cell extraction videos are mandatory to take..
ATHENS ABELL: Now you would know this to because you’re also a former deputy..?
MICKEY PRESCOTT: Yes,yeah but we didn’t have that type of we didn’t have to record anything while I was there because we didn’t have as many incidences as they have with this new sheriff…it became state law I do believe to..
KEVIN PRESCOTT:(inaudible)
MICKEY PRESCOTT: Right..so
www.ehow.com/about_6322656_department-corrections-code-ethics.html
[After 1999 all cell extractions using force shall be video taped according to the State of California Law.]
(D) If the use of reasonable force includes a cell extraction, the
extraction shall be video recorded.
law.onecle.com/california/penal/298.1.html
ATHENS ABELL: Tell Kevin to step a little closer to the phone so I can barely hear you ..
KEVIN PRESCOTT: I was just saying that I believe it is a FEMA law I spoke to one my buddy of mine who wrote the policy he’s got it, Hardamen he actually wrote that policy on that and it is mandated by the state that those extraction videos take place You have no choice those things have to take place so whether or not these guys intentionally hurt him I think a couple of them did I think that you know a couple of the other guys were just following orders a lot of, a lot of those guys you know were distraught behind the whole thing but the problem is that you have psychopathic maniac that’s in there that’s allowed to have free reign and then you have somebody who have bitter blood with my brother is in charge so the guy who’s in charge had bitter blood going with my brother for years and years because of some confrontations that or discussions that they had over the years disagreements that they had and so you know He was told you know that he needed to get his act together and this guy is he’s a he let it go to far..he was supposed to be in charge.
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Does it seem like this was a crime of convenience as in this instance they had it in for Craig, now they had him as an inmate and it was convenient for them to extract either information or exact their punishment upon him ?
Convenient how so? do you mean convenient for a time now We can get what we always wanted to do, we really wanted to punish you but now we have an opportunity that convenient? or was it convenient because Craig was still fighting for someone to hear him about that bogus warrant that was put out ?
He was seeking help by the ACLU and they may have gotten wind of that..He was still fighting for his right to be heard..and it could have been convenient that we no longer have to worry about this being brought up cause now you’re out of the picture I don’t know..
KEVIN PRESCOTT: His story hasn’t been told…
ATHENS ABELL: Was that Kevin? His story hasn’t been told is that what you said?
KEVIN PRESCOTT: Yes, that’s what I said. I was just commenting in the background..I didn’t necessarily want it to be heard…
(laughter in back ground)
KEVIN PRESCOTT: It’s you know it’s it just would have been decent if the sheriff you know the day that it happened he came out to the family and just said hey look something terrible happened and blah, blah, blah..it would all be over right there wouldn’t even be anything going on now but when he took the I’m gonna try and fool you, you guys aren’t smart as me I’m better than you type attitude that’s what turned this whole thing around because then we knew something not only terribly went wrong but now they’re trying to hide it..
ATHENS ABELL: Well I think that your story is beginning to be told and I hope that at some point in time it will all be told and I don’t know who it will be told by or how but I hope that one persons life is told somehow so that people out at in the general public can see that every life matters, every life does touch another life and as you were saying the other day Marlyn about it’s a wonderful life on what would life be like if that one person had not been born, it’s the same thing if we lose somebody Kevin you were talking earlier about losing your dad and I hear your voice cracking when you said that We don’t know what life would be like if we weren’t here all we have is what we have now..and we know what life is like now and we know what life was like when the person was here and I come back to you the question I asked earlier about How do you cope with it? How do you deal with it? because three years ago Craig was here and now he’s not..
[Kevin Prescott is a current professional Firefighter with around 20 years experience]
KEVIN PRESCOTT: Well for me I threw myself into work you know I worked as much as I could you know I really got into exercising vigorously which it slowed down again and I gained all that weight back but you know I just I just threw myself into things like that you know I really became anti-social with others, now I the things that we have to do like Christmas Day and things like that You know I it was just a difficult time so I guess I just stayed actively busy doing different things you know between going to a conference for work or setting up a new program at the job or whatever it was that’s what I did a lot of different things like that to stay busy.
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Well for me I just wanted to spend more time with Rachel and the kids because I felt I was drawn closer to Craig that way since he wasn’t here I wanted to pick up some slack and help with the my grand daughters the more I need them the more they reminded me of him and that brought me a lot of comfort.
ATHENS ABELL: And Rachel how do you deal with it today?
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Well when this happened and it felt like my whole world got torn out from underneath me and number one it was definitely the faith that I have and the promises of God and that he was in control even though everything was out of control so I had to find some sort of peace in some way and but I did the same thing as far as I dove into work I was in real estate at the time and just busy,busy,busy..it was easy to do that because I always had something going on with the girls at school,sports,music or something and but even doing that there would be pain like the first time I took the girls to a circus and that’s the first time I could feel, this is an example We didn’t even want to go back but it’s just an example sometimes a fun time together to try to get our minds off the pain and the tragedy and the loss and what we didn’t have every moment You know I would be driving home afterwards, after this wonderful time together and seeing smiles on their faces I was just balling my eyes out and it was just an adjustment of being able to allow yourself to have that kind of visual aid But Yeah but it is just waves of grief and I kind of climb under my bed for a while and I had a hard time I had a lot of shallow friendships,somethings I was doing to keep busy but as far as really deep meaningful things it was I couldn’t go there constantly I was in some ways I was pa.. passing things but this was just a form of denial so in order to survive I had to just look up positive quotes and sayings and things that could get me through the day and Bible verses and things they would encourage me to just hang on to the positive as something good something positive because I couldn’t the whole picture was way to much it was unreal it’s still to this day is unreal since all this has happened. But I have had a Domino Effect in my life dealing with the grief and the pain that it’s you just take it one minute at a time..and for now all the blessings I have that I know God gave me these six girls,Craig you know that this was a huge blessing and I am abundantly blessed with them and there is a piece of him in each one of them, they do have his heart in many ways so there’s a lot of joy that I can find in each day..
MARILYN PRESCOTT: I think Rachel, You really,you really vocalized what we all fail to vocalize but we all have our relationship with God, and if it were not for that peace and knowing there was a hope that we had we probably would not have gotten as far as we had without some other tragedy happening.
ATHENS ABELL: Well I’d like to thank you all for joining me today unfortunatly we have to go I would like to have you on another show in the near future I really appreciated it and Rachel your little girls are growing up and they’re very talented young ladies and women and I would like to end the show with one of their songs with your permission.
RACHEL PRESCOTT-JOHNSON: Oh, sure that would be wonderful..Thank You!
MARILYN PRESCOTT: Thanks! Athens.
ATHENS ABELL: Thank You! all..
MICKEY PRESCOTT: Thank you !
(The PreZcotts music playing and singing in the back ground)
ATHENS ABELL: Thank You and Good Bye!
From Robert Stanford’s Vault of information:
www.scribd.com/doc/45931451/Stanislaus-Sheriff-Department-VS-Craig-Prescott-Arrest-Dismissal-Case-Paperwork